La Posada Hotel 1In March of this year my wife and I were returning to Madisonville from our trip to Phoenix, Arizona and decided to stay a night at the La Posada Hotel in Winslow, Arizona. Members Don Clayton and Wallace Henderson had recommended this lovely place to me and I value their judgment because of their vast experience in traveling.

This hotel was built about 1930 and was a stop on the Santa Fe Railroad. Food and lodging were available to travelers using the Santa Fe’s route between Chicago and Los Angeles. The present building replaced one that burned down in the 1920s and is thus, the latest one built. Food was provided by the Fred Harvey Company which worked with the Santa Fe in many of their hotels. The company employed many young women in a hope that this would civilize, not only the hotel, but the surrounding area which was inhabited mostly by males a century ago. These women came to be known as the Harvey Girls and they did help civilize the area and married many of the local men.  Hollywood even made a very good movie called “The Harvey Girls” starring Judy Garland containing a good story and good music showing the life of these hardworking and capable women. It also has some nice shots of Santa Fe steam engines and trains in it.

La Posada Hotel 2The hotel was designed by a lady architect, Mary Coulter, who worked on many projects for the Santa Fe and many of these are still standing such as the El Tovar Hotel at the Grand Canyon. The Southwest architecture is quite well done. There are several gardens and the grounds are very comfortable and provide a good place to rest.  There are as many as 140 trains a day going by and the hotel even provides comfortable rocking chairs trackside to observe the action. There is an adjoining Amtrak station where trains such as the Southwest Chief stop. Winslow has a small rail yard and is a crew change point on the modern BNSF Railway which provides a nice opportunity for train watching as the trains stop for a few minutes before continuing their journey.

There are many things to see here such as the intimate gardens, a museum of modern art, the surrounding city with it’s historical buildings, and an excellent restaurant in the Hotel. The Turquoise Room has hosted many famous people over the years and they have a great photographic collection on the walls showing some of them such as Spencer Tracy, Jimmy Stewart, John Wayne, Albert Einstein, Amelia Earhart, and Harry Truman to name a few. The guest rooms are named for these travelers and we stayed in the Carol Lombard room overlooking the tracks. She was an actress and was married to Clark Gable and died in an airplane crash near Las Vegas in 1942 while on a War Bond tour for the Nation’s war effort.

There are two old passenger cars parked next to the Amtrak station that have been preserved and converted into permanent residences. One is pictured here and is a beautiful Pennsylvania Railroad car that is used by a local doctor as his residence. It has four nice bedrooms in it and you can even see the satellite dish mounted on the end of the car for television.

If you are looking for a nice place to stay in Northern Arizona with a lot of history, good food, nice rooms, lots of trains, gardens, art, and is right on Historic Route 66 you might wish to try out La Posada Hotel in Winslow, Arizona.

Hopefully, you have all been enjoying the beautiful spring weather. This is a very special time of the year and it goes well with our very special celebration of our Chapter’s 25th Anniversary. The time since we first formed our Chapter has slipped by too fast but the ride has been exceedingly enjoyable. It has been a learning experience for us and a great opportunity to participate with our friends in learning about the history of railroading in our country and the part that it played in settling and growing our great nation. Being able to come together each month and renew old friendships and make new ones is one that I look forward to.  We are able to share our experiences gain insight into the forces that have shaped our nation while seeing the advances that railroading has made in technology, efficiency, safety, and speed.

The National Railway Historical Society has been a great force in preserving and spreading the history of these advancements. They have documented this movement and spread this information to new generations of people interested in the history of railroading by providing an ever improving bulletin, maintaining a library of books, films, and photographs open to all, and hosting events for young people and members in general.

Our Chapter’s 25th Anniversary is a milestone and a time to appreciate the past and look forward to the future. All organizations evolve and our Society has tried to move into the new century with new ideas and ways of doing things while preserving the best of what has been done in the past. We need each member’s help in improving and participating in this ongoing movement. When good people come together to grow and learn, only good things can come from this.

One thing that will change is the ownership of the old train station that we meet in each month. Funding has run out for the current owners and the building will have to be taken over by someone else. At this time the City of Madisonville is exploring ways to take over the building and preserve its future.  I have met once with the Mayor to explain our Society and Chapter and will be meeting again with him soon to try to ensure our continued use of this beautiful and historic facility. The City realizes the importance of this building and will be looking to ways that it can be used and maintained while serving the community. I am optimistic at this point and will bring you more information as I find it out.

I am looking forward to seeing all of your smiling faces at the next meeting, Monday, April 26th, at 7pm at the Center in beautiful downtown Madisonville. Come and celebrate with us the 25th Anniversary and  join in the friendships and learning experience that has meant so much to many of us.

MAIN LINE-EASTERN, PART II: CONRAIL AND NORFOLK SOUTHERN ON THE EAST END OF THE PRR’s PITTSBURGH, FT. WAYNE, & CHICAGO, 1988-2009

April Program Overview By Dr. Fred Ripley The Pennsylvania Railroad’s four-track main line east from Pittsburgh is justifiably one of, if not the, most famous and photographed pieces of railroad in North America. Less well known, but just as fascinating, are the “Lines West” main lines from Pittsburgh to Chicago and St. Louis. In August of last year, we looked at the very busy operations of Conrail and Norfolk Southern from just northwest of Pittsburgh to the PA-OH state line.

In this program, we’ll start at the former mid-Ohio division point of Crestline, and follow the former Pittsburgh-Chicago main line as it heads through eastern Ohio, passing through varying topography and locations of both scenic beauty and industry.  As the line approaches the eastern end of the state, it becomes the modern-day main line of Norfolk Southern between the east coast and Chicago, and is an impressively busy railroad.  Given the fact that the PRR traditionally ran a significant amount of tonnage via a low-grade freight line, bypassing this section of the main, the railroad east of Alliance, OH, has more freight traffic presently than it ever has.

With an eye towards the history, we’ll see lots of action from the last ten years of Conrail and NS of recent years- big trains in great scenic main line settings, with lots of PRR position light signals, in all seasons and weather. Anyone with an interest in the PRR and its successors, or who just enjoys contemporary big-time railroading, won’t be disappointed.

Refreshments by Donnie and Betty Knight

FOR THE GOVERNMENT OF RAILFANS ONLY

WKNRHS – Next Meeting is Monday, March 22, 2010, Program by Chapter Member Tom Johnson, refreshments by Tom Hurley.

WKNRHS – April , program by Dr. Fred Ripley, refreshments by Donnie and Betty Knight.

WKNRHS – May Meeting in Hopkinsville, at the Hopkinsville Historical Society.

Homewood, IL, 7th Annual Rail Heritage Weekend, May 15-16, 2010.
27-28 19th Annual Rock River Valley Division Train Show – Rockford, IL, Jefferson HS, 4145 Samuelson Rd; Sat: 10am – 5pm, Sun: 10am – 4pm; Operating Z, N, HO, O & G scale layouts, Railroad Memorabilia displays, Railroad videos, Family Fun, 44,000 sq ft of displays: $5, under 12 free w/adult; John Mann (815/332-2496)/Don Brindle (815/874-6095).

See more Midwest Railroad Events at http://www.rrvd-nmra.com/MidwestEvents.pdf.

Here are a few updates:

Fantastic news. The first legislation to explicitly authorize a 220 mph high speed rail network in the Midwest has passed the Illinois Senate Transportation Committee. Sponsored and championed by Transportation Chairman Martin Sandoval (D-Chicago), the bill would create the Illinois High Speed Rail Authority, an independent agency tasked with developing a public-private partnership to build, operate, maintain and finance new tracks for passenger trains capable of traveling more than 150 mph. This is historic. The bill is SB2571 (amendment 3). More than 600 members emailed their legislators in support of the bill. Join them now as the bill moves to the floor of the Senate by clicking here.

Combined with Governor Quinn’s support of bullet trains in his State of the State address, the momentum for a public-private partnership to build new tracks for true high speed rail is growing!

-submitted by William Corum

Submitted by Chuck Hinrichs

Regarding the location of the new P&L office complex in Paducah. . . .
The new headquarters will be built on Marine Way in front of Crounce Corp. and behind Phelps Farm Service. This location is a block from the Carson Center downtown Paducah. The city owns the land but will give it to P&L as an incentive for remaining in Paducah. The article also  mentions the addition of 10 new jobs.

An old – really old – NC&StL caboose on the back lot of a house on Edwards Mill Road south of Hopkinsville and east from US41. This at one time belonged to Steve Johnson’s father. Not sure who owns it now.

This shot, I believe by Thomas W. Dixon, shows the C&O's eastbound "Sportsman"†at Ivy, VA, in September 1958. Nos. 46 and 47 were one of the three traditional C&O passenger trains between Washington and Cincinnati (the other two were the "George Washington" and "F.F.V."). †The "Sportsman" also featured a connection to Toledo and Detroit which split off Cincinnati section at Ashland, KY, †and used the route followed by the bulk of the C&O's westbound/northbound coal traffic (which went to the Presque Isle†docks on Lake Erie near Toledo). This view shows the "Sportsman" in it's classic dieselized appearance, before the cuts and consolidations of the 1960's. This consist has two of C&O's classy E-8's, a good cut†of heavyweight baggage cars, several lightweight coaches, a modernized diner, and at least two sleepers. Submitted by Fred Ripley
Marion, OH, was (and is) a major crossroads of railroads in north-central Ohio. †AC Tower, from which this shot is taken, controlled the crossing of the Erie main line and NYC's Cleveland-St. Louis main line (running together on an east-west alignment) and the C&O from Ashland, KY to Toledo and the PRR's Columbus-Sandusky Branch, both of which were major routes for coal and ore traffic. By 1966, when this shot was taken, the Erie had become the Erie-Lackawanna, and the PRR had sold the Sandusky Branch to the N&W, to facilitate the connection of the traditional N&W at Columbus with the newly acquired NKP at†Bellevue. † This eastbound is leaving the large E-L yard, and has a varied lash-up typical of the E-L: †a U25B, C425, F3B, and two E8A's. †The C&O is being crossed by the diesels; the N&W is just east of the tower. †Today, all lines through Marion remain busy, with the exception of the E-L, which was downgraded†and eventually abandoned with the formation of Conrail in 1976. Photographer unknown, submitted by Fred Ripley.
Chuck Hinrichs caught Northbound CSX Q688 and its road-side sentinel at Casky on a clear and crisp March 3rd afternoon.
Chuck Hinrichs caught Northbound CSX Q688 and its road-side sentinel at Casky on a clear and crisp March 3rd afternoon.
Where Climax Locomotives Once Chuffed!

by President, Rich Hane

Those of you that attended the February meeting were treated to a fine program brought to us by Bill Thomas and Dennis Carnal. It was an excellent video about the history of the Electromotive Division Geeps, their General Purpose diesel locomotives and it compared these with similar offerings from ALCO. The explanation and photography was excellent.

I saw an interesting article in the Feb. 8th issue of USA Today that described the progress that China has made in high speed rail transportation. They claim to have the fastest trains in the world and at an operating speed of 221 mph, they may have. On Dec 26th they had the grand opening of a new dedicated high speed rail line that connected the south China cities of Guangzhou and Wuhan, a distance of 664 miles. The new train can cover this distance in 3 hours for the express train compared to 10 ? hours for the previous train. Many people prefer this quiet and comfortable means of travel with less security restrictions than air travel.

The Chinese government is spending massive amounts of money to keep the economy moving and the new rail system is a point of pride for many Chinese. Last year the government spent $88 billion and now a total of 1,758 miles of high speed rail line are in place, the most in the world. The cost of building these new high-speed tracks is about $20.1 million per mile. President Obama, in contrast, promised to spend $8 billion on high speed rail in this country. Much of this will be spent on upgrading present lines to accommodate faster trains. The first radical upgrade announced is an 84 mile line between Tampa and Orlando Florida which will carry 168 mph trains. Many people are hoping that this will be an idea that catches on in other places such as the Midwest, East, and West Coasts. They would like to see much of these funds spent on true high speed rail lines instead of just the upgrading of present lines. But the reality of the situation will probably demand more affordable upgradings rather than new dedicated lines. These have shown to be successful so far, such as the Acela route in the Northeast Corridor.

One of the reasons that China is able to proceed at such a pace is that much of the country is set up for electrified rail lines whereas only a few sections of rail are electrified in this country. Also, their population density is generally far higher than is ours which makes the economics of the process much more favorable. Our trains tend to be heavier, and thus, slower, because they have to meet more strict safety standards than in some countries. This makes it more difficult to achieve the truly high speeds that are found in some countries. This seems to be a fair trade off to me, however.
The new Chinese trains even have car attendants dressed like air stewards who push snack carts down the aisles of the well lit, comfortable, and quiet cars. In the dining cars, only microwaved Chinese dishes and fast food is available but the cars are quiet and comfortable. The restrooms are far larger than on the average airplane.

China is spending large amounts on its infrastructure and this will probably pay off in the long run in more convenience, less air pollution, and a higher quality of life. China is learning from it’s experience in meeting the difficulties of construction and it is hoped that the U.S. will be able to pick the best of the new technologies from China and other countries as we head into the new world of high speed rail.

Please remember to pay your dues to Wally if you have not yet done so and I hope to see all of your smiling faces at the next meeting on March 22d at 7 pm in beautiful downtown Madisonville at the Center.

  • sHOw Modular Model RR Club Train Show – Saturday February 20, 2010, 10am to 3pm, at the L&N Depot on Kentucky Street, Bowling Green, KY.  Admission is $2.  Table rental for vendors is $15.  Contact Kevin, kcomer300@yahoo.com.
  • WKNRHS – Meeting, March 22, 2010, Program by Chapter Member Tom Johnson, refreshments by Tom Hurley.
  • WKNRHS – Meeting, April 26, 2010, program by Dr. Fred Ripley, refreshments by Donnie and Betty Knight.
  • WKNRHS – Meeting, May 24, 2010, Meeting in Hopkinsville, at the Hopkinsville Historical Society.

With the new year here, it is time to mark your calendars for Homewood, Illinois and our 7th Annual Rail Heritage Weekend, coming to you this year on May 15th/16th, 2010.  As always, we will have our popular Saturday night multi-media/slide show starting at 7PM, and on Sunday hosted railfanning at our busy train-watching platform starting at 6AM and the big Train Show (operating layouts, vendors, historical societies, antiques, etc) at the Village Hall municipal complex from 9AM to 3 PM.

CN will have prototype equipment on display adjacent to the Train Show venue.  This year we will also have our Rail Equipment Park caboose, IC 9426, open for touring–we finished interior restoration since last year’s event.  If luck is with us, we might have GP10 IC 8408 open also, although that is a very big maybe and depends on how the Spring work days go.  More detailed info in a couple of months–meanwhile, get us on your schedule and we will see you in Homewood in May!

Homewood is located in the south suburbs of Chicago and is accessible via both Metra commuter and Amtrak long-distance train service. More info available at www.homesweethomewood.com.

Chuck Hinrichs caught this northbound CSX manifest at Latham early afternoon January 23, 2010, with four  CSX B36-7s in the consist.  Chuck – “A lot of these old warhorses have been pulled from the roster and I wonder where these four might be headed.”  Ed. – from looks of the cover on the trailing unit, the vintage GEs are probably dead in tow. – Photos by Chuck Hinrichs

Paducah & Louisville RR Business Train for Sale!

2 Passenger Cars and 1 Power Car:

“Bluegrass State 1” was originally designed and built for operation as a Business Railcar for the Illinois Central Railroad. This railcar is still being used as a business car. Excellent condition, the interior having been completely gutted & rebuilt alter a fire destroyed the interior in the late 1980’s. It contains an observation room and open platform. Microphor hall toilet, dining room and fully equipped kitchen w/ Microphor toilet, two master bedrooms w/ shared Microphor toilet & shower wet bar along with all furnishings and accessories.

Bluegrass State was originally designed & built as a six double bedroom sleeper/bar lounge by Pullman in 1955 for the New York. New Hampshire (Editor’s note: I believe this to be New Haven) & Hartford RR. The car was originally named the “Nutmeg State” and numbered (NH-552). The car is generally in good operational condition.

The water & power car PAL 10 was built in 1958 as a milk freight carrier.

Price: $445,000

Any takers?

Submitted by Cliff Downey